For logistical reasons the last few days of Advent will all happen today. This means that my last few Advent cartoons will also happen today.

Posted by Dave at 1:15 pm on December 22, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Advent.

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Posted by Dave at 12:26 am on December 22, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Advent.

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The Annunciation to the Shepherds | Christianity Today | A Magazine of Evangelical Conviction

The slideshow includes images from artists such as El Greco, Giotto di Bondone, Dante Gabriel Rossetti and William Blake. But whatever you do don’t miss image number 11.

As an aside, I happen to know that this will not be the last one sees of this particular artist in Christianity Today.

Posted by Dave at 11:09 am on December 21, 2007 and filed under Religion, Advent.

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Posted by Dave at 10:59 am on December 21, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Advent.

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There are ‘Archbishop says nativity is legend’ stories popping up all over the internet. But let’s see what Rowan actually said:

Well Matthew’s gospel doesn’t tell us that there were three of them, doesn’t tell us they were kings, doesn’t tell us where they came from, it says they’re astrologers, wise men, priests from somewhere outside the Roman Empire. That’s all we’re really told so, yes, ‘the three kings with the one from Africa’ - that’s legend; it works quite well as legend.

The transcript is here if you’d like to see it in context, or you can listen again to the whole programme.

The thing that Rowan said was legend was ‘the three kings with the one from Africa’. Nothing more. He only uses the word ‘legend’ once, and this is it. Trust me, I’ve been through it with a fine Firefox ‘find’ function. He definitely does not describe ‘the Nativity’ as a legend.

But you wouldn’t know it from the various reports that are popping up. Lets do a bit of ‘didn’t read the transcript’ spotting:

Rowan Williams’ nativity own goal : December 2007 : Holy Smoke : UK : Telegraph Blogs:

Does Rowan Williams EVER think before opening his mouth? He waits until the week before Christmas before describing the nativity as a “legend” and condemning the poor wise men, asses and oxen to the realms of fantasy.

Archbishop says nativity ‘a legend’ - Telegraph:

Dr Rowan Williams has claimed there was little evidence that the Magi even existed

The Daily Mail:

Dr Rowan Williams yesterday debunked a large part of the Christmas story as a myth.

Stand Firm - +Rowan: Nativity a ‘legend’:

But Matthew does claim that the Magi were real rather than legendary figures

Any more?

Update: Geg Griffiths, the webmaster of ‘Stand Firm’ explains why he posted this article with the inaccurate headline “+Rowan: Nativity a ‘legend’”. The italics are a quote from another poster.

But SF should have different standards. Your headline should have either accurately summed up what Williams DID say or it should have made clear that it was the Telegraph, not you, who was claiming Williams said the Nativity was legend.

Christopher,

This brings up one of the more challenging issues of running a blog like this. What do we do when we run across a story like this? Do we dig into it thoroughly and offer an analysis informed by having read every tidbit contained in it? If we did, we’d get one or two things posted a day, if we’re lucky.

Do we rewrite headlines? Well, yes, sometimes we do, when it’s immediately obvious there’s an inaccuracy or an omission, or just when we want to have some fun. In this case, all I did was replace “Archbishop of Canterbury” with +Rowan, following our informal policy around here of using Anglican shorthand when we can, to keep headlines as short as possible without losing any meaning (”KJS” and “DioSJ” are examples).

Are we under an obligation to correct another site’s headline? No. In this case, I read what +Rowan said: It ‘works well as legend,’ and I knew that he didn’t necessarily mean ‘legend’ to mean ‘fiction.’ I decided not to make a judgement about what he meant, but to post the headline as the newspaper had it. My focus, as I’ve said, is on his poor judgement as concerns his statements to the media. Yes, it’s true that the print article isn’t as faithful to the interview transcript as it should be, but neither is it completely in error. I’ve been the subject of media interviews and not once has the result been error-free, so mistakes on the part of the press are a given. But even factoring for that, I say +Rowan needs to do some serious work in the area of what he says to the press, and when. It’s gotten to the point where, come a major Christmas holiday, if you want a remark from a notable Christian leader that seems to pooh-pooh Christianity, just head to Lambeth Palace, and voila.

Which brings up another challenge of running a blog like this: When do we switch from observing a subject, to observing another observer? In some cases a third party’s article on something is transparent, which makes it easy to observe the subject. In other cases, the observers themselves deserve more criticism than the subject they’re observing. In this case I’m doing a little of both. There’s nothing dishonest about it, there’s no subterfuge going on here, and I fail to see how it can be characterized as “not good work.”

Not convinced.

Further update: See also: Nick Page » Archbishop Rowan annoys the Telegraph (again)

Additional further update: Babyblue puts it down to ‘bad staffing’. Any excuse to show the Archbishop and anyone associated with him in a bad light.

Who’s bright idea was it for Rowan Williams to talk to Sophie and Simon at the Telegraph anyway? Where’s Jonathon? Out flyfishing with Stephen Bates?

The interview was with Simon Mayo on Radio 5 which anyone who has read the transcript or listed to the interview would know. I might almost go as far as to say that anyone has hasn’t done either of these things shouldn’t be pontificating on the story.

Posted by Dave at 1:31 pm on December 20, 2007 and filed under Anglican goings-on, Religion, Advent.

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Posted by Dave at 9:13 am on December 20, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Advent.

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Posted by Dave at 11:31 am on December 19, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Advent.

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This cartoon is available at We Blog Cartoons and can be freely re-used on your blog.

[Tag to help searchers: Nintendo wii cartoon]

Update: Aaron has named this cartoon ‘The Three Wii Men’. Very good.

Posted by Dave at 6:38 pm on December 18, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Technical, Religion, Advent.

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Posted by Dave at 12:38 pm on December 18, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Advent.

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I know you’ve seen this one before. There is nothing new under the sun. Everything is just like the wheel, but reinvented in different sizes, shapes, colours etc.

Talking of unrelated things, Advent seems to have become the season for bad religious memorabilia. Various websites have gone to the trouble of gathering it together:

The young Anglicans in Canada have The Cavalcade of Bad Nativities.

[Update: It turns out that the above Cavalcade of Bad Nativities was inspired by this earlier Cavalcade of Bad Nativities on GoingJesus. To confuse matters, this latest GoingJesus Cavalcade of Bad Nativities seems to feature some nativities from the aforementioned second Cavalcade of Bad Nativities, which in turn used some nativities from the first Cavalcade of Bad Nativities.]

Dean at the Heal Your Church Website is currently on day 3 of 12 Days of Jesus Junk.

…and of course the people who (probably) started it: Ship of Fools: The 12 Days of Kitschmas.

Talking of Ship of Fools, the pictures from their recent ecclesiastical pub crawl following in the steps of the Bishop of Southwark are on line: It’s what we did - the Southwark Pilgrimage. Mrs W and I went along at the end heavily disguised as ourselves so as not to get into the photographs. I came away with a box of Anglican fudge. Not quite sure how.

Finally, another great article on the Ship: Steve Tomkins - When Santa met Darwin.

I’m filing this under ‘Saturday links’. Future generations need never know that today has been a Monday.

Posted by Dave at 6:19 pm on December 17, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Religion, Saturday links, Advent.

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The Liverpool Nativity was shown on BBC 3 this evening, and is repeated on BBC 1 on the 23rd of December. [Update: you can watch it here for a while at least - might be UK only, I’m not sure. Thanks Rhys.] I thought it was really good, but I’ll let some others tell you about it as I am suffering from mild cartoon malaise.

Kester:

This was no cynical re-telling, but a contemporary, serious, politically aware take on the Christmas narrative, writ large as public spectacle. Thousands and thousands had turned out to the Dockside to join the spectacle, performed live throughout the city. What is fantastic about these events is that they appear to tap into the rich Christian root in our heritage - a heritage that I think people are beginning to see is vital to our coherent future, rather than being consigned to our past. I think this could be interpreted as a move into clear post-Christian water, where people are happy to be part of events like this without it being tied to ‘the church’.

John Davies:

The Flashmob Operas, the Manchester Passion, the Margate Exodus and tonight the Liverpool Nativity: all of them affirm the ongoing English love of gathering for a celebration of the deep mysteries which link people, music, story and place. And the latter three events also acknowledge that, as one writer put it this week, “ours is historically a Christian culture.” That writer goes on to share a concern that “children who grow up ignorant of biblical literature are diminished, unable to take literary allusions, actually impoverished,” and a great thing about events like these is that they play a significant part in helping these narratives resurface and be reborn, in the mainstream.

Posted by Dave at 12:04 am on December 17, 2007 and filed under Spirituality, TV, Religion, Advent.

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Posted by Dave at 6:00 am on December 16, 2007 and filed under Cartoons, Advent.

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