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I did this cartoon, all to do with the people we tend to pray for the most in church, as a commission for the organisation After Sunday in 2008. It has surfaced on the internet (thanks Alan in Belfast), so I thought I’d post it here. I could even, if there was a mild demand from the public, put up the high resolution I suppose. I have no plans to rush into such an action though.
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Where do cartoonists fit in to the hierarchy?
This explains why I struggled to find it on the website when I searched for “hierarchy” and “vocations” … I assumed an indexing error
My copy came from an email that had included it … so I guess it’s doing the rounds. Hope you didn’t mind?
Great cartoons.
Thanks Alan – didn’t mind at all.
I never get these e-mails that are ‘doing the rounds’. I should be thankful really (no need for anyone to start sending them to me).
I wonder if any churches ever pray for bloggers….
One initial reaction was that you’d drawn a strange and unidentified animal on level 3, until I realised it was part of a brush.
We have an intercessors training day coming up, and this will be very useful indeed.
David – I’ll try to put up the high res version shortly.
Interesting… who needs our prayer most? What would concern our day to day life more… a lack of door-to-door salespeople, the dustman, the MP, the Dr or the vicar?
I suspect most of us would put the Dr and the Dustman first…
And, er, aren’t we meant pray for the Queen occasionally (speaking as an Anglican)?
Glad to be classed as an “Etc” (Reader/Lay Minister)
I agree with David Keen, this cartoon would be a great resource for discussing prayer and who we pray for – the cartoon suggests to me you are Anglican, I am Methodist, and we pray for church leaders rather than bishops.
I use things from your book, calendar and blog quite often in the prayer group I go to.
I’ve never understood why churches pray more for people with “worthy jobs” eg doctors and teachers than the rest of us who work in something vaguely unmentionable called “business”. Is there a reason (biblical or otherwise?)
[...] do you pray for……? Dave Walker who writes /draws the Cartoon Church blog has raised an interesting question…..who do you [...]
I’m trying to figure out who you mean this. In the ECUSA Prayer Book, the “Prayer of the People” in various forms cover all this. In my own denomination, the Eastern Orthodox Church, we cover all these things in our several litanies at each service.
Perhaps I’m missing something… is it because we pray for “all the Holy People of God” and for “everyone living in this City” rather than mention bartenders by name?
Or am I being too literal?
Grf… that’s “how you mean this” not “who you mean this”
A related but tangential comment. I hope the Judges will be impressed. I can count on the fingers of one finger the number of times in 4.5 years I have heard church prayers for single people. I have never seen it as an item on a weekly prayer sheet. Not in the sense of ‘pray for the lonely and old’ (I am neither & I think that’s a very different issue) but in the same way we pray for children and students and grandparents and people taking exams and the unemployed and mums and dads and every other life stage…
Huw,
I think it is just that your experience is different to mine. Here in the C of E intercessions are often composed by a member of the congregation. The prayer book / Common Worship does contain suggested intercessions I think, but these don’t tend to be used that often in practice. I think the same is true in many denominations here.
Sara,
A good point. I will perhaps think about doing a cartoon with a slightly wider scope than just vocations. You may have noticed that single people got a mention in the periodic table one.
I did indeed spot that. Although I am trying not to become a single-issue person. (Pun intended, perhaps humour will impress the judges)
Dave – Thanks for the reply!
“these don’t tend to be used that often in practice”
LOL! I think CS Lewis has something to say about going off-book in the Screwtape Letters. There’s a reason there’s a printed liturgy: if people don’t use it it’s their own fault.
Sara – I have no doubt that the Judges will be impressed by humour and indeed by all aspects of this debate except the page navigation.
Huw – I was about to respond by claiming that our Common Worship book says something along the lines of ‘other suitable words may be used’, only to find out that it doesn’t. Oh. We have been liturgically transgressing all this time.
I’m going to ask about this on Twitter.
Update: It appears as if my initial instinct was right. In Common Worship ‘other suitable words may be used’. There is an official book that explains how to go about being suitable.
It’s interesting how often (in churchy circles), that the word ‘vocation’ is taken to ONLY mean ‘calling to ministry’ rather than ‘calling to do a specific job’.
Perhaps the hierarchy is a reflection of how much ‘calling’ people expect each job requires. Perhaps Bishop = lots, caring profession = some, call centre person = need money?
Which seems a bit unfair on all the person who are called to be double glazing salesmen.
