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February 14th, 2008

Inevitable and Unavoidable

These are just things I’ve been thinking. Other people have said them, and other people have said them better. They don’t form a coherent argument.

Inevitable
I find it quite amazing when doing a Google search for sharia inevitable to see how many news websites report Rowan Williams as saying this, with quote marks around ‘inevitable’, when he didn’t even use the word ‘inevitable’ in the famous interview at all.

Unavoidable
Rowan did use the word ‘unavoidable’ in the interview, but:

Matt Wardman has gone into some depth about the BBC and their role in the whole affair.

As I mentioned yesterday I spent the day at General Synod. I did get an overwhelming sense that everyone there (bar the two members the papers managed to drag up at the weekend) was entirely supportive of the Archbishop. Here’s posts by two synod members which sum up pretty well what other people were saying:

Paul Roberts » As the dust settles at General Synod
It was good to meet Paul – we had a chat in the gallery and he pointed out some synod features – about which I’ll say more at some point.

Mark Russell’s reflections: Rowan Willams
Mark: I was the scruffy-haired looking guy that was sitting with the Ridley people you spoke to at lunchtime.

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  1. Peter Kirk says:

    Do you think there is a difference in meaning between “inevitable” and “unavoidable”?

  2. Aaron Orear says:

    Unavoidable seems to indicate a judgment – we’d avoid it if we could, but we can’t. Inevitable is more neutral – it’ll happen no matter what.

  3. John O says:

    But even if the word ‘unavoidable’ had been fed by the interviewer, RW had an opportunity to challenge and correct the summary of his argument that was given; he didn’t, and what’s more he repeated that formulation that it ’seems unavoidable’. In the lecture ‘unavoidable’ refers to the introduction of a market element in law if we are to have a system of religions working together for the common good; this itself referring back to the system of supplementary juristicitions proposed in the previous paragraph (one of which was shar’ia). I’m not sure this is so very far removed from the interviewer’s formulation.

    It is funny to see though how journalists like to use what they think are synonyms for quotes. I saw that the BBC had +Carlisle saying that the government was like a ‘demonic beast’; I’m fairly certain those weren’t the exact words he used, but it makes for a much tastier headline!

  4. John O says:

    It does seem that Synod has pulled round RW, and at the Synodal level I think this was welcome, in that it both prevented any further damaging media coverage to the Church of England, and allowed discussion of the issues to move into a more measured and considered space. In addition, it helped to act as a riposte to the distasteful personal lampooning that had taken place in the tabloid press.

    But does this indicate that the matter, as well as the manner of his pronouncements last week, are thereby excused from criticism? Mark Russell’s reflections seem to focus on an ad hominem defence of RW against the personal attacks in the media, rather than on the wisdom and merits of the ideas he raised. I’ve said something already about the negative impact of his pronouncements outside the Anglican church, but questions about the reactionary nature of his thinking are still left hanging for those within. First, the concern that RW is entrenching himself in an establishment mentality, seeking exemptions from the law for the many rather than the few. Simon Barrow wrote a fascinating piece on this at the weekend,
    and has a new redaction here. A second concern is over RW’s wisdom in developing such an opposition between secularity and religious freedom as he did in the lecture. By attacking a secularity that demands the subordination of religious law, RW’s remarks betrayed one of the greatest achievements of modern Christianity: the survival of religion by relinquishing government rather than the exertion of it.

  5. Bimble says:

    I am sure that when the papers found the two who weren’t being supportive of good ol’ RW I’m sure that they were the first two that those in the media made contact with and in no way did they call round till they found someone who said what they wanted to hear.

    We can trust the media after all… they don’t lie to us ever.