Comments on: Theft of metals from churches http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/ by Dave Walker Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:58:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Arti http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-214108 Arti Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:55:30 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-214108 Hmmm! We had thieves on our church roof stealing lead 5 times in August! They even nicked our wheelie bin to take the lead away in.. We've now improved our security with extra spikes, razor wire, anti-vandal paint and infra-red security beams ( set not to go off if it is only a passing cat or bird!) The repairs have been done with "artificial lead" which I believe has no scrap market value but is likely to only last 20 years before needing renewing, rahter than lead's 70 years! Oh and now we chain the wheelie bins up too! Hmmm! We had thieves on our church roof stealing lead 5 times in August! They even nicked our wheelie bin to take the lead away in.. We’ve now improved our security with extra spikes, razor wire, anti-vandal paint and infra-red security beams ( set not to go off if it is only a passing cat or bird!)

The repairs have been done with “artificial lead” which I believe has no scrap market value but is likely to only last 20 years before needing renewing, rahter than lead’s 70 years!

Oh and now we chain the wheelie bins up too!

]]> By: truthsign http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-211437 truthsign Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:49:00 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-211437 My husband The Grouch is a plumber, and in addition to the regular break-ins and theft of tools from his van (which he can't empty at night because there's just too much in it), he has now suffered the indignity of having his pipe carrier smashed up and all his copper piping stolen. He's not going to carry any from now on. My husband The Grouch is a plumber, and in addition to the regular break-ins and theft of tools from his van (which he can’t empty at night because there’s just too much in it), he has now suffered the indignity of having his pipe carrier smashed up and all his copper piping stolen. He’s not going to carry any from now on.

]]> By: John http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-211324 John Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:03:21 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-211324 Not metal-related, but maybe I saw this headline and thought it might be the answer for the Lambeth Conference: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7094215.stm Not metal-related, but maybe I saw this headline and thought it might be the answer for the Lambeth Conference:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7094215.stm

]]> By: Mary http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-211293 Mary Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:22 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-211293 What happens when they melt the lead down? What happens when they melt the lead down?

]]> By: Thomas http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-210801 Thomas Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:24:22 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-210801 Why not direct the theives to a certain church in Poole and a certain church in Bradford. I gather neither of them is used anymore! Why not direct the theives to a certain church in Poole and a certain church in Bradford. I gather neither of them is used anymore!

]]> By: John http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-210739 John Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:10:26 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-210739 The school where I am a governor has suffered - but not our churches (yet). Most of the metal is sold abroad (to feed the furnaces of China etc), so couldn't the government simply bann the export of scrap metal and so make it more or less worthless? The school where I am a governor has suffered – but not our churches (yet).
Most of the metal is sold abroad (to feed the furnaces of China etc), so couldn’t the government simply bann the export of scrap metal and so make it more or less worthless?

]]> By: Karin http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-209891 Karin Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:20:35 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-209891 It's not just church roofs, libraries can have lead stolen from their roofs, too. It’s not just church roofs, libraries can have lead stolen from their roofs, too.

]]> By: Sarah B http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-209858 Sarah B Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:59:17 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-209858 I wish it were so totally funny but at least one of our parishioners feels the need to keep watch at night - we've lost lead that will sell for about £400 but will cost about £8000 to replace. I wish it were so totally funny but at least one of our parishioners feels the need to keep watch at night – we’ve lost lead that will sell for about £400 but will cost about £8000 to replace.

]]> By: Anne http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-209813 Anne Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:10:34 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-209813 This has been an ongoing problem here, though churches don't seem to be the only victims, and gilding or lead aren't the only metals. Here it's residences and businesses, and the would-be thieves are after the copper plumbing. It's not unusual for a house being remodeled to be completely stripped of its internal plumbing. Occasionally a misguided thief decides to make a play for the copper electrical wiring--and comes to not a very good end. That happened in my city just a couple of weeks ago. Other popular targets are antique stained-glass door transoms (here the area above the door where the house number is posted is often stained glass) and Victorian millwork. Imagine waking up one morning to missing gingerbread. This has been an ongoing problem here, though churches don’t seem to be the only victims, and gilding or lead aren’t the only metals. Here it’s residences and businesses, and the would-be thieves are after the copper plumbing. It’s not unusual for a house being remodeled to be completely stripped of its internal plumbing. Occasionally a misguided thief decides to make a play for the copper electrical wiring–and comes to not a very good end. That happened in my city just a couple of weeks ago. Other popular targets are antique stained-glass door transoms (here the area above the door where the house number is posted is often stained glass) and Victorian millwork. Imagine waking up one morning to missing gingerbread.

]]> By: Aaron Orear http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-209748 Aaron Orear Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:13:55 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/13/theft-of-metals-from-churches/#comment-209748 I'd love to see them trying to steal the pebbles off a flat roof... The problem in Canada, where lead roofs are not common, is more about thieves breaking into country churches and making off with the furnishings. (This is more of a problem in a country so big that a country church is really out in the country...way, way out there with miles and miles between it and anything else.) Altars and fonts and pews and chairs and whatnot regularly turn up in Toronto antique stores, where they're sold to yuppies for that "authentic" feeling in their 4-month-old condo buildings. End rant. I’d love to see them trying to steal the pebbles off a flat roof…

The problem in Canada, where lead roofs are not common, is more about thieves breaking into country churches and making off with the furnishings. (This is more of a problem in a country so big that a country church is really out in the country…way, way out there with miles and miles between it and anything else.) Altars and fonts and pews and chairs and whatnot regularly turn up in Toronto antique stores, where they’re sold to yuppies for that “authentic” feeling in their 4-month-old condo buildings.

End rant.

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