Comments on: Church chair http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/ by Dave Walker Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:58:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Geoff McLarney http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-218592 Geoff McLarney Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:28:21 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-218592 Leave us not forget <a href="http://www.affirming-laudianism.org.uk/" rel="nofollow"></a> Leave us not forget

]]> By: Peter Kirk http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-209290 Peter Kirk Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:10:58 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-209290 The problem with chairs like this in my church is that people hang their coats over the back of their own chairs, which means that the people behind can't get at the pocket in the chair in front. But we have largely solved the problem by projecting the words for hymns and liturgy, so that the only people who need to use the books in the pockets are the short-sighted and those for whom tradition seems to demand that they hold a book. The latter group includes some people with learning difficulties who 50% of the time hold their books upside down. There might have been a problem for those who wanted to follow the Bible reading, but there isn't because our church Bibles are too big for the pockets, and so end up on empty chairs or on the floor. The problem with chairs like this in my church is that people hang their coats over the back of their own chairs, which means that the people behind can’t get at the pocket in the chair in front. But we have largely solved the problem by projecting the words for hymns and liturgy, so that the only people who need to use the books in the pockets are the short-sighted and those for whom tradition seems to demand that they hold a book. The latter group includes some people with learning difficulties who 50% of the time hold their books upside down. There might have been a problem for those who wanted to follow the Bible reading, but there isn’t because our church Bibles are too big for the pockets, and so end up on empty chairs or on the floor.

]]> By: David Keen http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-208341 David Keen Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:27:14 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-208341 There are no so many people affirming other people that we need a new Affirming Affirmers network. There are no so many people affirming other people that we need a new Affirming Affirmers network.

]]> By: Am I liberal? Who knows (who cares)? » Metacatholic http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-208192 Am I liberal? Who knows (who cares)? » Metacatholic Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:05:06 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-208192 [...] Now there’s another such group (HT Dave Walker) to give me that old mixed reaction feeling: Affirming Liberalism. No doubt in Oxford Diocese, spiritual home of Anglican Mainstream, the liberals feel in need of some affirmation. (Am I the only one who can’t avoid the disrespectful thought, when I see AM’s founding fathers Philip Giddings and Chris Sugden being interviewed together, that they look like a crotchety gay couple?) Part of me is very pleased to see people sticking up for the “L” word. Not only do we believe in the liberality of God, but we believe we should love him with all our minds, and that our rationality is a part of being made in his image. Another part of me always thinks liberal is a better adjective than it is a noun, a flower rather than a root. [...] [...] Now there’s another such group (HT Dave Walker) to give me that old mixed reaction feeling: Affirming Liberalism. No doubt in Oxford Diocese, spiritual home of Anglican Mainstream, the liberals feel in need of some affirmation. (Am I the only one who can’t avoid the disrespectful thought, when I see AM’s founding fathers Philip Giddings and Chris Sugden being interviewed together, that they look like a crotchety gay couple?) Part of me is very pleased to see people sticking up for the “L” word. Not only do we believe in the liberality of God, but we believe we should love him with all our minds, and that our rationality is a part of being made in his image. Another part of me always thinks liberal is a better adjective than it is a noun, a flower rather than a root. [...]

]]> By: BSI http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-208014 BSI Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:31:37 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-208014 Good one! Good one!

]]> By: Russ http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-207754 Russ Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:30:46 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-207754 We have chairs like this in our church, and they generally work fine, as the people who sit in the front row (yes, there are some, although they have to be specially trained) manage to be quite adept at storing newssheets and stuff about their persons. Or they simply take no notice of the service as they engaged in preventing small children from running amok. Not always successfully. Interesting, the word 'amok' - which I suddenly needed to find out the derivation of - comes from the Malay word amuk, meaning "mad with rage". In case you ever wondered ... We have chairs like this in our church, and they generally work fine, as the people who sit in the front row (yes, there are some, although they have to be specially trained) manage to be quite adept at storing newssheets and stuff about their persons. Or they simply take no notice of the service as they engaged in preventing small children from running amok. Not always successfully.
Interesting, the word ‘amok’ – which I suddenly needed to find out the derivation of – comes from the Malay word amuk, meaning “mad with rage”. In case you ever wondered …

]]> By: Simon http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-207625 Simon Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:46:04 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-207625 Many years ago, Buzz magazine advertised a chair with chariamatic arm rests for those for whom holding their arms aloft during a particularly long seated worship and praise session was becoming just too tiring. It was the April edition, but I would have thought there could be some mileage in it.. Many years ago, Buzz magazine advertised a chair with chariamatic arm rests for those for whom holding their arms aloft during a particularly long seated worship and praise session was becoming just too tiring.

It was the April edition, but I would have thought there could be some mileage in it..

]]> By: chris clark http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-207590 chris clark Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:16:24 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-207590 I gather the idea of the Hymn Book pocket is to ensure people look round other than in the peace... Nice try but to be really comprehensive we will need Affirming :- Evangelical Liberals, Liberal Evangelicals, Conservative Liberals, Conservative Liberal Evangelicals....etc. I gather the idea of the Hymn Book pocket is to ensure people look round other than in the peace…

Nice try but to be really comprehensive we will need Affirming :-

Evangelical Liberals,
Liberal Evangelicals,
Conservative Liberals,
Conservative Liberal Evangelicals….etc.

]]> By: MQ http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-207126 MQ Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:48:29 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-207126 I think you're supposed to use the pocket of the seat in front of you. Just rather bad luck for the people in the front row. ...oh, sorry, I forgot, this is an Anglican church: there *are* no people anywhere near the front row. I think you’re supposed to use the pocket of the seat in front of you. Just rather bad luck for the people in the front row.

…oh, sorry, I forgot, this is an Anglican church: there *are* no people anywhere near the front row.

]]> By: Anne http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/comment-page-1/#comment-207097 Anne Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:26:13 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/12/church-chair/#comment-207097 Hmmm. What you need is the sort of chair with the rack under the seat. The kind in your drawing is doubly awkward because some people would assume that the prayer book/hymnal/Bible/service leaflet/supplemental hymnal/whatever in the rack on the back actually belongs to the person sitting just behind. It's kind of like sitting in coach on an airplane. You're supposed to put your handbag under the seat in front of you, but half the people don't. I'm giving myself a headache just working out the logistics. Hmmm. What you need is the sort of chair with the rack under the seat. The kind in your drawing is doubly awkward because some people would assume that the prayer book/hymnal/Bible/service leaflet/supplemental hymnal/whatever in the rack on the back actually belongs to the person sitting just behind. It’s kind of like sitting in coach on an airplane. You’re supposed to put your handbag under the seat in front of you, but half the people don’t. I’m giving myself a headache just working out the logistics.

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