Comments on: Heaps http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/ by Dave Walker Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:34:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Anthony http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-201747 Anthony Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:12:59 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-201747 Jesus hept. Jesus hept.

]]> By: Martin Eyles http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-200802 Martin Eyles Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:42:28 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-200802 Quite a few <a href="http://www.topverses.com/topv/main.php?book=19&chapter=136&pg=3" rel="nofollow">unpopular verses from Psalm 136</a>, two being unpopular enough to appear on the <a href="http://www.topverses.com/topv/main.php?&pg=6220" rel="nofollow">penultimate page of the overall list</a>. Surprising too, given that this Psalm is the basis of what seems to be quite popular song. In fact, a short google reveals that there is <a>at least one site that talks about it</a>. Disclaimer - I only took a brief look at that last page, so I hope that it doesn't contain anything terrible but won't guarantee that. Quite a few unpopular verses from Psalm 136, two being unpopular enough to appear on the penultimate page of the overall list.

Surprising too, given that this Psalm is the basis of what seems to be quite popular song. In fact, a short google reveals that there is at least one site that talks about it.

Disclaimer – I only took a brief look at that last page, so I hope that it doesn’t contain anything terrible but won’t guarantee that.

]]> By: Simon Boswell http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-200456 Simon Boswell Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:01:23 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-200456 Great idea Dave - I have blogged on this very subject this morning. Lets hope that this verse starts to climb the rankings - at least somewhere into the mid 20's, perhaps? Great idea Dave – I have blogged on this very subject this morning. Lets hope that this verse starts to climb the rankings – at least somewhere into the mid 20’s, perhaps?

]]> By: Chris Gilmore http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-199390 Chris Gilmore Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:08:12 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-199390 The one thing that pisses me off about the Great & Good Dr Rowan Williams more than any other is his continual references to 'Moderate Muslims' (as opposed to the immoderate ones who blow themselves and others up). Now, I am at one with him in preferring the former, but would he really like to be classed as a 'Moderate Christian'? Somehow, I think not. Moreover, I suspect that he (being a learned man who knows his Bible) would quote Revelations 3, 14-22 if anyone made such an accusation sgainst him. So exactly what is a 'Moderate Muslim' in Dr Williams's book? I suspect he means, in essence, a non-believing, and non- (or only visibly) practising Muslim. If so, good! For Dr Williams is (by all accounts) a Christian, and as such he believes (I presume) that the beliefs of the Virtuous Pagans are vain things, which must, in due course of time, go the way of all vain things. Oops, sorry! Forgot to mention a semantic point. To a Christian theologian (such as Dr Williams) the world is divided into two camps: Christendom (where Christianity rules) and Heathenesse (where it doesn't). As for the distinction between Heathens and Pagans, this is semantic only: 'Heathen' is a pejorative word, with implications of brutality and savagery; 'Pagan' is much less pejorative, and implies only a certain lack of sophistication, such as may be expected of someone who lives in the country and clings to primitive beliefs. So, Moderate Muslims are Pagan (good - or at least, goodish), while seriously devout Muslims prepared to kill and/or die for the Faith (Islamists, as the Torygraph likes to call them) are Heathen, and thus bad. And as for Dr Williams? What would he die or kill for? Presumably not an eternity spent deflowering a corps of 72 self-repairing virgins; but what? The one thing that pisses me off about the Great & Good Dr Rowan Williams more than any other is his continual references to ‘Moderate Muslims’ (as opposed to the immoderate ones who blow themselves and others up). Now, I am at one with him in preferring the former, but would he really like to be classed as a ‘Moderate Christian’? Somehow, I think not. Moreover, I suspect that he (being a learned man who knows his Bible) would quote Revelations 3, 14-22 if anyone made such an accusation sgainst him.
So exactly what is a ‘Moderate Muslim’ in Dr Williams’s book? I suspect he means, in essence, a non-believing, and non- (or only visibly) practising Muslim. If so, good! For Dr Williams is (by all accounts) a Christian, and as such he believes (I presume) that the beliefs of the Virtuous Pagans are vain things, which must, in due course of time, go the way of all vain things. Oops, sorry! Forgot to mention a semantic point. To a Christian theologian (such as Dr Williams) the world is divided into two camps: Christendom (where Christianity rules) and Heathenesse (where it doesn’t). As for the distinction between Heathens and Pagans, this is semantic only: ‘Heathen’ is a pejorative word, with implications of brutality and savagery; ‘Pagan’ is much less pejorative, and implies only a certain lack of sophistication, such as may be expected of someone who lives in the country and clings to primitive beliefs.
So, Moderate Muslims are Pagan (good – or at least, goodish), while seriously devout Muslims prepared to kill and/or die for the Faith (Islamists, as the Torygraph likes to call them) are Heathen, and thus bad.
And as for Dr Williams? What would he die or kill for? Presumably not an eternity spent deflowering a corps of 72 self-repairing virgins; but what?

]]> By: sally http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-199345 sally Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:51:53 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-199345 Having spent the day in the garden, my own (compost)heap is almost a mountain. I guess in about seven months' time, I will turn it over. In a year from now it will be ready to spread back on the garden. Are there other bible verses that give recycling tips? Having spent the day in the garden, my own (compost)heap is almost a mountain. I guess in about
seven months’ time, I will turn it over. In a year from now it will be ready to spread back on the garden.
Are there other bible verses that give recycling tips?

]]> By: Dave http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-199265 Dave Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:44:16 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-199265 Good work Tom. I note that the least popular verse but two is <a href="http://topverses.com/topv/main.php?verse=11262" rel="nofollow">2 Chronicles 4:15</a> (one that Mark also discovered, above). <blockquote>one sea, and the twelve oxen under it</blockquote> Now there's another verse that deserves a bit more popularity. Good work Tom.

I note that the least popular verse but two is 2 Chronicles 4:15 (one that Mark also discovered, above).

one sea, and the twelve oxen under it

Now there’s another verse that deserves a bit more popularity.

]]> By: Tom http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-199261 Tom Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:38:43 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-199261 The last verse is: 1 Chronicles 25:23 For the sixteenth to Hananiah, his sons and his brothers, twelve: Although it seems like a heap of clicking is required to get there, a shortcut is available. TopVerses lists 6221 pages. The url for the first was http://topverses.com/topv/main.php?&pg=1. All you need to do is change this to http://topverses.com/topv/main.php?&pg=6221 or whatever other page # you want to view. If its true that the last shall be first then the Orthodox literalists have piles of heaps of work ahead of them. The last verse is:

1 Chronicles 25:23
For the sixteenth to Hananiah, his sons and his brothers, twelve:

Although it seems like a heap of clicking is required to get there, a shortcut is available.

TopVerses lists 6221 pages. The url for the first was http://topverses.com/topv/main.php?&pg=1. All you need to do is change this to http://topverses.com/topv/main.php?&pg=6221 or whatever other page # you want to view.

If its true that the last shall be first then the Orthodox literalists have piles of heaps of work ahead of them.

]]> By: Mark Bennet http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-199075 Mark Bennet Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:00:04 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-199075 The lowest I could find in about quarter of an hour astonished me: 31095 - Ps136.22 31096 - Ps136.21 31097 - Ps136.14 31098 - Ezekiel 19.6 "He went up and down among the lions; he became a young lion, and he learned to catch the prey; he devoured men." This seems to have far too much interest and intrinsic quotability to be so low down the list. I also found the rather maverick 1 Chron 25.23 at 37059 (of 31101), 1 Chron 25.28 at 37058 and 2 Chron 4.15 at 37057. (I think there is a typo, and these should be 30759 etc) Also mystified that 1 Corinthians 6.9 is at the top of verses from 1 Corinthians "Or don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals," The list of top Galatians verses is more heartening, but I would like more information on the methodology. The lowest I could find in about quarter of an hour astonished me:

31095 – Ps136.22
31096 – Ps136.21
31097 – Ps136.14
31098 – Ezekiel 19.6

“He went up and down among the lions; he became a young lion, and he learned to catch the prey; he devoured men.”

This seems to have far too much interest and intrinsic quotability to be so low down the list.

I also found the rather maverick 1 Chron 25.23 at 37059 (of 31101), 1 Chron 25.28 at 37058 and 2 Chron 4.15 at 37057. (I think there is a typo, and these should be 30759 etc)

Also mystified that 1 Corinthians 6.9 is at the top of verses from 1 Corinthians

“Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,”

The list of top Galatians verses is more heartening, but I would like more information on the methodology.

]]> By: Paul http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-198986 Paul Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:32:51 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-198986 31:7 is my birthday. And I look forward to heaps more! 31:7 is my birthday. And I look forward to heaps more!

]]> By: Cosmo http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/comment-page-1/#comment-198928 Cosmo Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:22:12 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/11/02/heaps/#comment-198928 Stepping around the heaps for a moment, I'm curious as to what is the least used Bible verse online? Surely this is more of a priority to promote. Has anyone visited Topverses and clicked through the 6,000+ pages to find out? (I got as far as page four and got bored I'm afraid) Stepping around the heaps for a moment, I’m curious as to what is the least used Bible verse online? Surely this is more of a priority to promote.

Has anyone visited Topverses and clicked through the 6,000+ pages to find out?

(I got as far as page four and got bored I’m afraid)

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