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	<title>Comments on: Segregating the sinful sexes</title>
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	<description>by Dave Walker</description>
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		<title>By: Brian (from Australia)</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/09/13/segregating-the-sinful-sexes/comment-page-1/#comment-187314</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian (from Australia)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My peeve is against a different segregation -- between employees and the non-employed. I have been unable to attend many church activities because they are held during 8am and 6pm on a work day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My peeve is against a different segregation &#8212; between employees and the non-employed. I have been unable to attend many church activities because they are held during 8am and 6pm on a work day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Rockwell</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/09/13/segregating-the-sinful-sexes/comment-page-1/#comment-185890</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Rockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still laughing? Good. Then Google &quot;You May Be a Rapture Redneck&quot; and &quot;An Exciting Day at Rapture Bible College.&quot; Believe it or not, these were penned by the love-him-or-hate-him author of &quot;The Rapture Plot&quot; (see Armageddon Books online)!    Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still laughing? Good. Then Google &#8220;You May Be a Rapture Redneck&#8221; and &#8220;An Exciting Day at Rapture Bible College.&#8221; Believe it or not, these were penned by the love-him-or-hate-him author of &#8220;The Rapture Plot&#8221; (see Armageddon Books online)!    Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Miserly Leconda</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/09/13/segregating-the-sinful-sexes/comment-page-1/#comment-185540</link>
		<dc:creator>Miserly Leconda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to be lucky for once and get on with life; the life that owns me.  I will of course get up the courage to upset myself once and a while with differences in opinion and fact.  I believe thoroughly in my right as a unique citizen to explore others, be it their choices or their matters and I don&#039;t have the smallest reservation about knowing who I am because it&#039;s part of the existence that I will become and furthermore.  The relationship is not coming as planned, I will be off to take the adventure of lacking predilictive religious nuances without a real congregative experience.  Being likely to follow makes me understand my abilities, even when I can hear the shame in myself.  It&#039;s hard living for people.  It&#039;s even harder living as human...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to be lucky for once and get on with life; the life that owns me.  I will of course get up the courage to upset myself once and a while with differences in opinion and fact.  I believe thoroughly in my right as a unique citizen to explore others, be it their choices or their matters and I don&#8217;t have the smallest reservation about knowing who I am because it&#8217;s part of the existence that I will become and furthermore.  The relationship is not coming as planned, I will be off to take the adventure of lacking predilictive religious nuances without a real congregative experience.  Being likely to follow makes me understand my abilities, even when I can hear the shame in myself.  It&#8217;s hard living for people.  It&#8217;s even harder living as human&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/09/13/segregating-the-sinful-sexes/comment-page-1/#comment-185439</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minglist:

1. Campbell, politician
2. the Merciless, Emperor of the Galaxy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minglist:</p>
<p>1. Campbell, politician<br />
2. the Merciless, Emperor of the Galaxy</p>
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		<title>By: NancyP</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2007/09/13/segregating-the-sinful-sexes/comment-page-1/#comment-184739</link>
		<dc:creator>NancyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We mingle, by choice. What does &quot;segregation of the sexes&quot; mean, when you have a number of transgendered congregants? Some things tend to self-segregate - the golf fundraiser is organized primarily by women, the altar decorations by men, communications (newsweb and newsletter) and audio by women (though that&#039;s a small number of people). The choir certainly isn&#039;t segregated - we have a male alto soloist, and a few female tenor choralists, as well as the usual voice placements. And of course everyone eats!  

Did I mention? Ours is a predominantly gay church and denomination (Metropolitan Community Churches).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We mingle, by choice. What does &#8220;segregation of the sexes&#8221; mean, when you have a number of transgendered congregants? Some things tend to self-segregate &#8211; the golf fundraiser is organized primarily by women, the altar decorations by men, communications (newsweb and newsletter) and audio by women (though that&#8217;s a small number of people). The choir certainly isn&#8217;t segregated &#8211; we have a male alto soloist, and a few female tenor choralists, as well as the usual voice placements. And of course everyone eats!  </p>
<p>Did I mention? Ours is a predominantly gay church and denomination (Metropolitan Community Churches).</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of what our church does (CofE, Evangelical) seems to involve food and mingling.
That said, there is a Women&#039;s Fellowship which is technically open to men, but in reality none want to go. And there&#039;s a Friday morning group which seems to attract women although I&#039;m not sure anyone&#039;s ever actually said men are excluded. And there is a Men&#039;s group (which being manly, has decided not to come up with a name for itself, because names are poncey) which has done some fun things like breakfasts, an X-Box games night, playing golf and going to have pints while watching England being trounced by South Africa at rugby.
So, to summarise, while we do have some *sort of* segregated groups,  our general attitude would be minglist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of what our church does (CofE, Evangelical) seems to involve food and mingling.<br />
That said, there is a Women&#8217;s Fellowship which is technically open to men, but in reality none want to go. And there&#8217;s a Friday morning group which seems to attract women although I&#8217;m not sure anyone&#8217;s ever actually said men are excluded. And there is a Men&#8217;s group (which being manly, has decided not to come up with a name for itself, because names are poncey) which has done some fun things like breakfasts, an X-Box games night, playing golf and going to have pints while watching England being trounced by South Africa at rugby.<br />
So, to summarise, while we do have some *sort of* segregated groups,  our general attitude would be minglist.</p>
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		<title>By: yay</title>
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		<dc:creator>yay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sydney evangelical scene is big on segregated events (Katoomba Women&#039;s Convention was last weekend in fact). I don&#039;t like them. The men at my church have just started having shed time. The next women&#039;s thing is a pampering night. I would much rather go to a shed than be pampered.

Also a lot of the women&#039;s things are about being a good wife or mother or whatever. Relevance to me? Zero! 

And if we must have things just for women, at least have some that aren&#039;t so girly! My old church had craft nights and that sort of stuff. Craft?! Gingerbread house? Why would I make a house using the pieces they provide? Why can&#039;t I make a gingerbread truck or tree or Eiffel Tower?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sydney evangelical scene is big on segregated events (Katoomba Women&#8217;s Convention was last weekend in fact). I don&#8217;t like them. The men at my church have just started having shed time. The next women&#8217;s thing is a pampering night. I would much rather go to a shed than be pampered.</p>
<p>Also a lot of the women&#8217;s things are about being a good wife or mother or whatever. Relevance to me? Zero! </p>
<p>And if we must have things just for women, at least have some that aren&#8217;t so girly! My old church had craft nights and that sort of stuff. Craft?! Gingerbread house? Why would I make a house using the pieces they provide? Why can&#8217;t I make a gingerbread truck or tree or Eiffel Tower?</p>
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		<title>By: Stella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My church (LDS) has been accused of being sexist by outsiders who don&#039;t know much aout the church. I can see what they mean, but it&#039;s a matter of perspective, I think.

S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My church (LDS) has been accused of being sexist by outsiders who don&#8217;t know much aout the church. I can see what they mean, but it&#8217;s a matter of perspective, I think.</p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>am really liking Rick&#039;s way of doing things ;-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>am really liking Rick&#8217;s way of doing things ;-P</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm, I seem to recall St Paul writing something along the lines of &quot;In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile, no slave nor free, &lt;b&gt; no male or femail&lt;/b&gt; - we are all one in Christ Jesus.....

In our Evangelical Anglican church we don&#039;t do sex-segregation (it&#039;s a bit too &#039;brethern&#039; for our tastes) - we go in for age-ism instead:

20s-30s group (in practice only married people as single people in their 20s never leave the youth group.)
40s-50s group and 60+ group.

20s/30s &amp; 40s/50s tend to do the same sort of thing (skittles, curry nights, paintballing etc) whilst 60s+ have things like &#039;sing-along-a-Sanky&#039; evenings. This is maddening for our resident hyper-manic pensioner on HRT who has more energy than most of the 40-year olds but by virtue of her age is not allowed to join in the events she most wants to.

I, being rebellious, go to whichever event takes my fancy, regardless of my age.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, I seem to recall St Paul writing something along the lines of &#8220;In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile, no slave nor free, <b> no male or femail</b> &#8211; we are all one in Christ Jesus&#8230;..</p>
<p>In our Evangelical Anglican church we don&#8217;t do sex-segregation (it&#8217;s a bit too &#8216;brethern&#8217; for our tastes) &#8211; we go in for age-ism instead:</p>
<p>20s-30s group (in practice only married people as single people in their 20s never leave the youth group.)<br />
40s-50s group and 60+ group.</p>
<p>20s/30s &amp; 40s/50s tend to do the same sort of thing (skittles, curry nights, paintballing etc) whilst 60s+ have things like &#8216;sing-along-a-Sanky&#8217; evenings. This is maddening for our resident hyper-manic pensioner on HRT who has more energy than most of the 40-year olds but by virtue of her age is not allowed to join in the events she most wants to.</p>
<p>I, being rebellious, go to whichever event takes my fancy, regardless of my age&#8230;..</p>
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