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	<title>Comments on: Men with fans</title>
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	<description>by Dave Walker</description>
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		<title>By: barrie</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/07/08/men-with-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-32179</link>
		<dc:creator>barrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, women suffer more from heat extremes than men do.
For example to following two examples 
Example 1
Woman - I&#039;m cold - lend me your coat
Man - Where&#039;s your coat?
W - I don&#039;t have coat that goes with these shoes
M - You should have worn a jumper
W - What, and spoil the look of this low topped dress?
M - Which looks great with Goose-Bumps
W - Just give me your coat!

Example 2
W - Blimey, its hot today
M - Why are you wearing a thick jumper?
W - You said I looked nice in it last time.
M - Yes - in December. Its July now. Why don&#039;t you take it off?
W - I&#039;ve not got anything on underneath
M - You ought to wear layers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, women suffer more from heat extremes than men do.<br />
For example to following two examples<br />
Example 1<br />
Woman &#8211; I&#8217;m cold &#8211; lend me your coat<br />
Man &#8211; Where&#8217;s your coat?<br />
W &#8211; I don&#8217;t have coat that goes with these shoes<br />
M &#8211; You should have worn a jumper<br />
W &#8211; What, and spoil the look of this low topped dress?<br />
M &#8211; Which looks great with Goose-Bumps<br />
W &#8211; Just give me your coat!</p>
<p>Example 2<br />
W &#8211; Blimey, its hot today<br />
M &#8211; Why are you wearing a thick jumper?<br />
W &#8211; You said I looked nice in it last time.<br />
M &#8211; Yes &#8211; in December. Its July now. Why don&#8217;t you take it off?<br />
W &#8211; I&#8217;ve not got anything on underneath<br />
M &#8211; You ought to wear layers</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/07/08/men-with-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-32148</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Us British men prefer to leave a stiff upper lip, so that sweat can drip off it in an attractively macho way, suggesting that nothing so trivial as heat can disturb our sang-froid.

Either that, or we&#039;re lazy beggars who worry that if we wave our hands around in church, people may consider us charismatic.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us British men prefer to leave a stiff upper lip, so that sweat can drip off it in an attractively macho way, suggesting that nothing so trivial as heat can disturb our sang-froid.</p>
<p>Either that, or we&#8217;re lazy beggars who worry that if we wave our hands around in church, people may consider us charismatic.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rattigan</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/07/08/men-with-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-32036</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Rattigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again you bowl me over with your keen perception.

This whole cultural thing where it&#039;s acceptable for women to fan themselves, but positively *unthinkable* for men to do the same really annoys me.

We need to address this imbalance, but I fear it might split the Anglican Communion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again you bowl me over with your keen perception.</p>
<p>This whole cultural thing where it&#8217;s acceptable for women to fan themselves, but positively *unthinkable* for men to do the same really annoys me.</p>
<p>We need to address this imbalance, but I fear it might split the Anglican Communion.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/07/08/men-with-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-31759</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 20:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My German teacher used to tell us that we shouldn&#039;t make fans because it was an expense of energy which would only make us hotter.  I thought this was a myth set about by teachers to prevent mass fan-making chaos during lessons.  Thus find that fanning oneself with a service sheet helps to cool me down in the short term.  Perhaps the men are still bound by this teacher-like myth?  As a teacher myself I feel it is my duty to keep up the myth to prevent mass fan-making chaos during lessons anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My German teacher used to tell us that we shouldn&#8217;t make fans because it was an expense of energy which would only make us hotter.  I thought this was a myth set about by teachers to prevent mass fan-making chaos during lessons.  Thus find that fanning oneself with a service sheet helps to cool me down in the short term.  Perhaps the men are still bound by this teacher-like myth?  As a teacher myself I feel it is my duty to keep up the myth to prevent mass fan-making chaos during lessons anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Nefertiki</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/07/08/men-with-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-31711</link>
		<dc:creator>Nefertiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things that Dave is good at is providing pleasant surprises and the subject of this post is no exception.  &quot;Men With Fans&quot; - I was expecting to see something about soccer stars enjoying the limelight, but instead you chose a subject of greater depth and promise of philosophical and scientific analysis.  Not that I don&#039;t care for soccer -- as a former soccer mom (with a gifted ten-year-old who made little boys cry even before the game began, e.g. &quot;Mommy, I&#039;m not going to play against that big strong girl!&quot;), I feel entitled to pretend that I know more about it than I really do.

Leaving the useful SSF aside, I am far too modest to attempt to comment on hot men, er, men suffering from the heat without benefit of air conditioning (WBAC). That would require a firm grounding in physiology, world culture, gender differences, and The Mikado which I don&#039;t possess.  But off the top of my head I&#039;d guess that, on the one hand, in some countries men do fan themselves, or depend[ed] on slaves to do it for them, or in factories, depend on employers to provide large standing-on-floor fans or huge industrial fans.  (They were called &quot;sweat shops&quot; after all.)

But on the other hand, perhaps men in church or on public transport abstain from fanning themselves for fear of looking like &#039;girlie men&#039;.

To the moderator:  if you express your objection to grammatical atrocities, run-on sentences with an excess of hot air, and bad taste in general, by blocking my comment I will understand perfectly. 

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that Dave is good at is providing pleasant surprises and the subject of this post is no exception.  &#8220;Men With Fans&#8221; &#8211; I was expecting to see something about soccer stars enjoying the limelight, but instead you chose a subject of greater depth and promise of philosophical and scientific analysis.  Not that I don&#8217;t care for soccer &#8212; as a former soccer mom (with a gifted ten-year-old who made little boys cry even before the game began, e.g. &#8220;Mommy, I&#8217;m not going to play against that big strong girl!&#8221;), I feel entitled to pretend that I know more about it than I really do.</p>
<p>Leaving the useful SSF aside, I am far too modest to attempt to comment on hot men, er, men suffering from the heat without benefit of air conditioning (WBAC). That would require a firm grounding in physiology, world culture, gender differences, and The Mikado which I don&#8217;t possess.  But off the top of my head I&#8217;d guess that, on the one hand, in some countries men do fan themselves, or depend[ed] on slaves to do it for them, or in factories, depend on employers to provide large standing-on-floor fans or huge industrial fans.  (They were called &#8220;sweat shops&#8221; after all.)</p>
<p>But on the other hand, perhaps men in church or on public transport abstain from fanning themselves for fear of looking like &#8216;girlie men&#8217;.</p>
<p>To the moderator:  if you express your objection to grammatical atrocities, run-on sentences with an excess of hot air, and bad taste in general, by blocking my comment I will understand perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: ash</title>
		<link>http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/07/08/men-with-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-31665</link>
		<dc:creator>ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a fact that fanning oneself with a peice of paper expends energy and involves effort; and the heat generated as a by-product of this effort is greater than the cooling out-put generated by the service-sheet-fan. Ergo, service-sheet-fannery (SSF, for we in the church love our acronyms) actually makes on hotter... 

I shall not bring into question the logical faculties of females, and shall instead posit that they must know some magical fan-design secret that we men don&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a fact that fanning oneself with a peice of paper expends energy and involves effort; and the heat generated as a by-product of this effort is greater than the cooling out-put generated by the service-sheet-fan. Ergo, service-sheet-fannery (SSF, for we in the church love our acronyms) actually makes on hotter&#8230; </p>
<p>I shall not bring into question the logical faculties of females, and shall instead posit that they must know some magical fan-design secret that we men don&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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