Comments on: Bishop abandoned in Africa with 20 curates http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/ by Dave Walker Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:58:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ron http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-21849 Ron Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:04:46 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-21849 Hospitality interruptus...we surely have not as yet "heard it all"...but leave it to our selective literalist brethren to find an obscure law to back it up. Hospitality interruptus…we surely have not as yet “heard it all”…but leave it to our selective literalist brethren to find an obscure law to back it up.

]]> By: Paul http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17914 Paul Fri, 26 May 2006 16:40:36 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17914 If you read the reports in todays papers it makes it clear that the scheduled activities for the curates are progressing - its only the involvement of John Gladwin that has been curtailed. If you read the reports in todays papers it makes it clear that the scheduled activities for the curates are progressing – its only the involvement of John Gladwin that has been curtailed.

]]> By: Richard http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17701 Richard Thu, 25 May 2006 09:24:09 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17701 Dave - a friend's sister is one of the twenty curates 'abandoned' with the Bishop, and so we are naturally worried for them. There has been some contact and I understand that they are OK at the moment, but that the future and the way home are not clear to them. Dave – a friend’s sister is one of the twenty curates ‘abandoned’ with the Bishop, and so we are naturally worried for them. There has been some contact and I understand that they are OK at the moment, but that the future and the way home are not clear to them.

]]> By: Chris http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17648 Chris Thu, 25 May 2006 07:34:40 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17648 Hey, you missed out the burning coals bit! Hey, you missed out the burning coals bit!

]]> By: Augustus Meriwether http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17592 Augustus Meriwether Thu, 25 May 2006 01:24:00 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17592 <i>[drags Dave out of the corner, unfortunately over-stretching his jumper sleeve]</i> I don't think the cartoon is an overreaction at all. In principle, the cancelling of an official itinery of engagements in this way, and for such a reason, is the same as declining to offer a visitor (whether enemy or friend) food or drink or any other form of hospitality. They are officially shunning the visitors: their brothers and sisters in Christ. They are being inhospitable, self-righteous, judgemental and downright rude. These things are not consonant with the principles you allude to in your cartoon. You should stand on a chair with a big cardboard star stuck to your chest with double-sided tape. [drags Dave out of the corner, unfortunately over-stretching his jumper sleeve]

I don’t think the cartoon is an overreaction at all. In principle, the cancelling of an official itinery of engagements in this way, and for such a reason, is the same as declining to offer a visitor (whether enemy or friend) food or drink or any other form of hospitality.

They are officially shunning the visitors: their brothers and sisters in Christ.

They are being inhospitable, self-righteous, judgemental and downright rude. These things are not consonant with the principles you allude to in your cartoon.

You should stand on a chair with a big cardboard star stuck to your chest with double-sided tape.

]]> By: J. C. Fisher http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17574 J. C. Fisher Wed, 24 May 2006 21:28:52 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17574 "The whole point is, surely, that John Gladwin did not go to Kenya as an enemy, but as a ‘friend’, whom the Kenyans then discovered wasn’t quite what they thought" Is that how friendship is defined, then? "Being what we think"? "There is no greater love than this: that one lay down one's life for one whom is what one thinks..." Doesn't quite have the same ring, does it? ;-/ “The whole point is, surely, that John Gladwin did not go to Kenya as an enemy, but as a ‘friend’, whom the Kenyans then discovered wasn’t quite what they thought”

Is that how friendship is defined, then? “Being what we think”?

“There is no greater love than this: that one lay down one’s life for one whom is what one thinks…”

Doesn’t quite have the same ring, does it? ;-/

]]> By: Dave http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17548 Dave Wed, 24 May 2006 19:03:49 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17548 Hi John. Thanks for your comment. You may be right. I have no access to background information about the Bishop and the rights and wrongs of what should have been discussed when. My cartoon was directed against the withdrawing of 'hospitality', which from news reports I thought meant somewhere to stay, food etc. If however it turns out that 'withdrawing hospitality' means that the bishop has been stopped from attending some official engagements then my cartoon is an overreaction to the situation and I shall go and sit on my own in a corner for a while. Hi John. Thanks for your comment. You may be right. I have no access to background information about the Bishop and the rights and wrongs of what should have been discussed when. My cartoon was directed against the withdrawing of ‘hospitality’, which from news reports I thought meant somewhere to stay, food etc. If however it turns out that ‘withdrawing hospitality’ means that the bishop has been stopped from attending some official engagements then my cartoon is an overreaction to the situation and I shall go and sit on my own in a corner for a while.

]]> By: John Richardson http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17544 John Richardson Wed, 24 May 2006 18:36:51 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17544 The whole point is, surely, that John Gladwin did not go to Kenya as an enemy, but as a 'friend', whom the Kenyans then discovered wasn't quite what they thought (otherwise the issue would surely have been addressed before the trip was set up). What I find odd is the number of people who seem to want to blame anything - Anglican Mainstream, the Kenyan press, 'homophobia' - except the actions of the bishop which precipitated the crisis in the middle of an inter-diocesan exchange. Given that a trip to one of the other 'twin dioceses', Trinidad and Tobago, was cancelled last year over this issue, wasn't this outcome predictable in advance? The whole point is, surely, that John Gladwin did not go to Kenya as an enemy, but as a ‘friend’, whom the Kenyans then discovered wasn’t quite what they thought (otherwise the issue would surely have been addressed before the trip was set up). What I find odd is the number of people who seem to want to blame anything – Anglican Mainstream, the Kenyan press, ‘homophobia’ – except the actions of the bishop which precipitated the crisis in the middle of an inter-diocesan exchange. Given that a trip to one of the other ‘twin dioceses’, Trinidad and Tobago, was cancelled last year over this issue, wasn’t this outcome predictable in advance?

]]> By: Karin http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/comment-page-1/#comment-17522 Karin Wed, 24 May 2006 12:19:48 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2006/05/24/bishop-abandoned-in-africa-with-20-curates/#comment-17522 Yes, I just heard that on the news. It is a worrying development, especially on top of the goings on in Nigeria mentioned here http://freedom-bound.blogspot.com/ Yes, I just heard that on the news. It is a worrying development, especially on top of the goings on in Nigeria mentioned here http://freedom-bound.blogspot.com/

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