Comments on: What can we do with your feed? http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/ by Dave Walker Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:43:51 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dave http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/comment-page-1/#comment-198 Dave Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:19:53 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/#comment-198 The Wallo World article link from comment above is good actually. It raises amother scenario, that of the content being attributed but the link being included in a group that you don't want to be part of or didn't choose to be part of. Darren, I think delicious is a splendid site. Personally I think I prefer to keep my bookmarks on my computer though or blog them if they're worth blogging, but I can see the attraction of having it all online. Thanks Angel, all the best for your aggregator. Tim, I have a copyright notice on this site but that is mainly because of the cartoon images which people otherwise use willy nilly without remembering the artist has to make a living. But I have a lot more to say about this in the coming weeks. I'll be giving bloggers a bit of leeway to include a sample image, I just need to decide how to do it. But that's another subject really. The Wallo World article link from comment above is good actually.

It raises amother scenario, that of the content being attributed but the link being included in a group that you don’t want to be part of or didn’t choose to be part of.

Darren, I think delicious is a splendid site. Personally I think I prefer to keep my bookmarks on my computer though or blog them if they’re worth blogging, but I can see the attraction of having it all online.

Thanks Angel, all the best for your aggregator.

Tim, I have a copyright notice on this site but that is mainly because of the cartoon images which people otherwise use willy nilly without remembering the artist has to make a living. But I have a lot more to say about this in the coming weeks. I’ll be giving bloggers a bit of leeway to include a sample image, I just need to decide how to do it. But that’s another subject really.

]]> By: Tim http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Tim Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:10:32 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/#comment-196 Doesn't it all depend on the permission you give? I.e. if you slap a plain copyright notice on it then no use except linking or quoting for the purpose of discussion is permissible without permission (with or without attribution). But if you use a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/" rel="nofollow">Creative Commons license</a> then you choose what others are <b>allowed</b> to do. The problem is not what people are <b>allowed</b> but what they <b>can</b> and, once you offer RSS, they <b>can</b> (indeed this is surely the purpose of RSS) take and reuse your content (remember RSS = Really Simple <b>Syndication</b>)! So in a sense you have encouraged it by using the blog engine - it is designed to let <b><i>anyone</i></b> reuse your content. That is speech that is really "free" in every way and sense. Doesn’t it all depend on the permission you give? I.e. if you slap a plain copyright notice on it then no use except linking or quoting for the purpose of discussion is permissible without permission (with or without attribution). But if you use a Creative Commons license then you choose what others are allowed to do.

The problem is not what people are allowed but what they can and, once you offer RSS, they can (indeed this is surely the purpose of RSS) take and reuse your content (remember RSS = Really Simple Syndication)! So in a sense you have encouraged it by using the blog engine – it is designed to let anyone reuse your content.

That is speech that is really “free” in every way and sense.

]]> By: Angel http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Angel Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:46:52 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/#comment-195 I came over because someone thought you might be interested in the aggregator that I am starting, but I wanted to chime in on this discussion. Content on your site is yours as long as it was created by you. Anyone can link your site legally. They are doing nothing wrong. But, in the case of an aggregator that would pull your content onto another site, with or without credit to you can be illegal if done without your permission. It would be a violation of copyright law. Just my 2 cents for the topic, not the discussion. If that just made sense. :) I came over because someone thought you might be interested in the aggregator that I am starting, but I wanted to chime in on this discussion.

Content on your site is yours as long as it was created by you. Anyone can link your site legally. They are doing nothing wrong. But, in the case of an aggregator that would pull your content onto another site, with or without credit to you can be illegal if done without your permission. It would be a violation of copyright law.

Just my 2 cents for the topic, not the discussion. If that just made sense. :)

]]> By: Wallo World » The Blogdom of God http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/comment-page-1/#comment-194 Wallo World » The Blogdom of God Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:50:05 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/#comment-194 [...] without request.  For example, Dave Walker of Cartoon Church blog identifies this as an issue of what others can do with one’s RSS feed.  H [...] [...] without request.  For example, Dave Walker of Cartoon Church blog identifies this as an issue of what others can do with one’s RSS feed.  H [...]

]]> By: Darren http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Darren Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:37:57 +0000 http://www.cartoonchurch.com/blog/2005/06/16/what-can-we-do-with-your-feed/#comment-189 Interesting, but not sure what the answer is as to what is OK and what is not. Including extracts from a blog on a site is 'like' quoting someone but at the sametime is also different. Bloglines is great but made the mistake of including the BBC news feeds in my account. Means everytime I log onto Bloglines I have over 300+ news items in my BBC folder. Also how does soemthing like del.icio.us rank in all this. Basically creating a virtual library of linked pages, that all can see. Sorry I'm rambling (trying to put off some editing) Interesting, but not sure what the answer is as to what is OK and what is not. Including extracts from a blog on a site is ‘like’ quoting someone but at the sametime is also different.

Bloglines is great but made the mistake of including the BBC news feeds in my account. Means everytime I log onto Bloglines I have over 300+ news items in my BBC folder.

Also how does soemthing like del.icio.us rank in all this. Basically creating a virtual library of linked pages, that all can see. Sorry I’m rambling (trying to put off some editing)

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